they seem genuinely incapable of understanding that this isn't directed from the top down, that there isn't some massive silent majority there ready to welcome them, that people actually enjoy having immigrants as friends and neighbors and most of all that fear will not keep the cities in line

we talk a lot about how this administration is Very Online and one of the things that comes with that is a complete inability to understand their opposition - who they are, what they're motivated by, and how they might respond to the administration's actions it's why they're failing

that's not happening. things are breaking through. Trump's more unpopular than Joe Biden, whose unpopularity sank Harris' entire campaign. people Hate this shit. they aren't putting up with the Trump Show as produced by useless legacy media

I think a lot of it was fear that as in Trump I only we, the most engaged, in addition to the most vulnerable, would notice what was going on. that the reaction to an ethnic cleansing operation would be the thermostatic reset of the attempt to appeal to ACA in 2018 and no more

I'm attending a super secret Antifa anti-ICE training meeting and what I'm learning is SHOCKING! (Actually it's an ACLU lawyer advising people how to monitor and record ICE officers without obstructing their work.)

Fuck it, Unionposting

once again, Mark Joseph Stern is exactly right

Lots of these takes going around and all of them are... exactly right. If elected Democrats stop pushing will be right back here doing the same thing in a different city.

I will end this by saying: dismantle DHS starting with ICE and CBP, fire anyone that has had anything to do with Trump Admin immigration enforcement no questions asked...as soon as you actually have the power to do that.

(Also recall there is NOTHING Democrats in Congress can do to restrict funding to immigration enforcement. It was funded by the OBBA years into the future regardless of annual appropriations.)

4) I get that everyone wants to be mad at mommy because she makes them eat vegetables but POLITICAL PARTIES ARE NOT YOUR PARENTS, good lord.

3) Democrats have ~no power right now. Imposing significant restrictions on ICE without shutting off funding to the IRS or BLS etc is the equivalent of equalizing after having two players sent off with reds. It would be huge. Nothing about messaging for this fight ties anyone to future policy.

2) “restrain, reform and restrict ICE.” <-- People are seeing this and assuming it's some sort of set in stone slogan forever. No, dude, it's the slogan for this particular fight. You're not going to abolish ICE with this funding bill. Sorry, if you think that's on the menu you're just stupid.

again, none of this is a crime, so writing it in the opsec app for opsec chats would not have made a difference. they’re just finding people they think are soft targets and backfilling justifications

brass solidarity band performing “stand by me” in the streets of whittier next to alex pretti’s memorial. the crowd started chanting “the people united will never be defeated” so they incorporated it into the song. i love minneapolis

A lot of out of state media are parachuting in and making outrageous demands or requests of organizations doing mutual aid. Asking to connect with or directly observe people working with the vulnerable. Have some fucking respect for the work and realize the stakes are life and death.

This is happening! An NH friend of mine lives just across the river from Maine and works over there sometimes. He said the locals are already picking out ICE agents at restaurants and bars, on the streets and at stores to berate them and run them off. Mariners will just say people are "from away"

On CNN, Anderson Cooper using the sentence "That was a lie" over and over tonight regarding the words of Noem, Miller and Bovino.

Again: sounds like some little MAGA turd convinced some people in Minneapolis to add him to a few gigantic and minimally vetted Signal group chats. Zero fancy technology is required to do this. Do not flatter the Trump admin by assuming they’re better at this than they actually appear to be.

Tiny Greg Bovino pitching the idea of riding under the next Border Control commander’s hat and still being in charge via Ratatouie’ing

“Hacking” and “infiltrating” a digital chat in the context of “convincing somebody to add you” are VERY different practices and threat models. It is both irresponsible and stupid to conflate the two.

I refuse to die until I get to see Stephen Miller humiliated as publicly and devastatingly as possible. It is the most important thing in the world to me.

IMO, Kash Patel may or may not be smart enough to intentionally throw this out there to scare people away from using Signal at all, thus pushing them towards using more easily-monitored digital comms in the demonstrably false belief they’re all “equally bad.” Let’s not give him the win regardless.

As others have noted, huge Signal chats are basically the same as large minimally-screened in-person organizing meetings. There’s always gonna be a trade-off between accessibility, speed, and security when rapidly responding to emergent events.

And that's not even incorrect! Mr President sir, your most wet, serpent-like vizier has wrecked your approve/disapprove numbers on the only issue where they were actually positive. He is trying to wreck your legacy sir! Think of the Ballroom

it took longer than expected but this did eventually get to Trump re: Elon! it has the added benefit of being even more true for Miller than it was for Musk

Trump is nothing if not ready to sacrifice anyone and anything in order to save his own ass and the single most important thing that could happen right now is someone convincing him that the biggest driver of his unpopularity is not just Bovino and Noem but Stephen Miller personally

Border Patrol is pulling out of Minneapolis. Bovino is ending his punitive tour of blue cities. Calls for Noem's resignation are mounting, even in conservative media. Senate Democrats are dug in now on refusing to fund DHS and ICE. "Abolish ICE" is now a mainstream position. They are losing.

Does he get to keep the agents who go potty with him

wait they removed Bovino? maximum respect to the people of Minneapolis: you did this. power to the people forever

Exactly right. Bovino's leaving? Great, get Noem to resign. Noem resigns? Great, defund and dismantle ICE. Go after Stephen Miller too. Bring charges against ICE thugs at the state and local level. Lawsuits. New state laws restricting them. Every possible angle.

we will meet them in los angeles and chicago and minneapolis and lewiston and wherever these marauding barbarians migrate to next, bringing their crime and violence with them, and we will slam the gates of our cities against them. they want us to reject foreign immigrants; very well, we reject them

the nazis retreated from stalingrad to berlin for three thousand miles and two years, fighting the entire way. the battle of kursk was AFTER stalingrad nothing about that retreat was predetermined. the soviets couldn’t give up, couldn’t relent, continued to bleed

I need Dems here now.

This is how politics has always and will always work. Politicians have beliefs, but mostly they just follow public opinion, because they don't want to be drawn and quartered by a crowd.

Anyway the demotion is good but I think everybody can keep going and see if we can get him sent to jail

I know everything is too little too late but I don’t think you can possibly spin this administration publicly firing their hypermasculine mass-deportation figurehead for being *too aggressive* as being a good thing for them, or for their authoritarian ambitions.

the sociologists know what’s up keep pushing, never rest

See also: anyone who says more training and banning masks for ICE would be enough for them to vote for increased DHS funding. It isn’t enough. Those types of reforms make the violence easier to witness (from a far away position of privilege), but they don’t actually make it stop.

A lot of replies and quotes about Black Lives Matter and #MeToo. And YES. Anything you saw people in power do in response to those movements? Those are the red flags of symbolic compliance. We need big structural changes that would fundamentally make our society less violent and more equal.

The thing about seeing Bovino get humiliated is that it's perfectly fine to want to see him get *more* humiliated. Some things really aren't better in moderation.

Making the rounds on FB:

They overplayed their hand and there's blood in the water. One lesson to take is that Trump never seems powerful for long: though he ruins many lives in his attempt to demonstrate dominance, his next nadir is always right around the corner.

This is basically getting un-personed for Trumpworld.

There's been a lot of discussion about the echoes of the civil rights movement in the protests today, with people obviously drawing comparisons between the strategies, tactics and coalitions that were vital then and are still vital now. But this post has me thinking about a different echo ...

let’s get the occupation armies out of Maine, California, Illinois, and the District of Columbia! no rest until we’re all free

My husband didn't know, so I'll repeat it here: Border Czar isn't a real job. Tom Homan has a fake job with a fake title. It also means that he wasn't confirmed by anyone in Congress. (Trump tried to confirm Homan in 1.0 but he failed bc Homan was too corrupt even pre-cava bag.)