they were always doing this

One of these days, I swear... someone needs to make an honest documentary about how and why bullying, abusing and harassing VIVIENNE MEDRANO SPECIFICALLY has become such a normalized and widely-accepted pastime for the Internet and the world at large. Fuck everything about misogyny and queerphobia.

Even if you don't like either shows writing, the hellaverse still has some of the best queer representation out there. Character's sexualities aren't ever made into punchlines, but aren't so hidden to the point that you have to wonder if their attracted to anyone at all.

No cause the way men who are sexual deviants like Louis CK and Chris Brown can still tour and make money, a woman is rightfully upset about anything she’s crazy and overreacting and should be chastised. There’s a reason Gen Z statistically ranked as more misogynistic than millennials.

With how fans are between TADC and Hellaverse, I would not be surprised if Gooze and Viv step away from the industry when their shows are over Can't write the show the way they intended, can't get sick, can't like art without people jumping to it being canon and being pissy, can't defend themselves

The latter is so true. They don't want a diverse, ensemble cast each with their unique quirks and issues. They want pretentious slop that they can clip out of context and be like "omg ts so tuff" and "based" while accompanied with footage of podcasters talking about "stoicism" or whatever.

Guys, we need more weird and sleezy content out in the wild! Oh the hellaverse exist and is already like that? No no no, it has to be the safe, marketable, bare minimum representation of minorities, family friendly kind!

Invincible saying "swearing doesn't make you cool" is such prude, cornball shit. People swear for a variety of reasons. It's like thinking people only smoke exclusively just to look cool. Who wrote that line? An associate from D.A.R.E?

There’s no upside to being a bigot, really. It’s a plague on society and almost always projection. Our ancestral, pre-civilization past evolved to be mistrustful of just any stranger, but we also still evolved to be acutely social and nurturing. Let’s feed that good side.

Got this wild unsolicited comment on Tiktok today

Republican elected officials hovering over two draft tweets: a) Of course the President didn't attack civilian infrastructure, he'd never you TDS addled fearmongers! b) Fuck yeah, did you see how badly we fucked up that TERRORIST infrastructure? USA! USA! How you like that FAFO now, Iran!?? MAGA!

A coalition you never thought you’d see: AOC ✅ Ilhan Omar ✅ Rashida Tlaib ✅ Tucker Carlson ✅ Alex Jones ✅ Candace Owen’s ✅ Marjorie Taylor Greene ✅ As well as a long list of Democrats calling for the 25th Amendment. TODAY. #USDemocracy #Pinks newrepublic.com/post/208723/...

Anyway, I also feel like Hazbin antis will reach a point where they'll drop all pretense of leftism and just court christofascists just because they share hatred of the show in common. That's what happens when you keep hanging out in the nazi bar and platform literally anyone who badmouths it.

Hazbin antis' arguments really strike me as just them wanting the show to be exactly like everything else they saw as a kid, but with zero challenges to their worldview or preconceptions (particularly on queer representation).

Don't forget that Schlep YouTube collaborated with a right-leaning partisan nazi sympathizer that justified the erasure of LGBT people and research under the pretense of "protecting children".

Sometimes a family is two owls, a hound, and a lizard. After seeing and reading so many wonderful things you all made for #StolitzFamily week, I needed to draw them like this (Sharing b4 color 'cos I have no impulse control) #Stolitz #Blitzø #Stolas #Loona #Via #BuckzoGoetia #HelluvaBoss

Real talk, but can we stop giving Lin attention? I just genuinely think they just have bad takes like this for the sake of garnering attention and try to set a false agenda for the hellaverse.

It's kinda baffling how hellaverse critics will redraw characters to be the most blandly stereotypical caricatures you'll ever see and then accuse the show of having offensive depictions of minorities.

Just putting this here.

IF YOU PLAY DOOM BY FATE, DON'T. SOMEONE DIED BEACAUSE OF IT AND THE DEVS. ARE BEING ABSOLUTE FRICKS ABOUT IT. Watch thr video for more context. RIP Kit, you didn't deserve any of this. youtu.be/j_Apa-3irP4?...

"I'm okay with queer people existing, as long as they never express themselves outside of any gender-conformitive box" is not the progressive mentality they think it is no matter how much they twist reality and logic to do so. #hazbinhotel #helluvaboss

Viv just posted ALL OF THIS on her Instagram Story. This incident is a microcosm of misogyny, queerphobia, racism, xenophobia, mass hysteria, blackmailing, EVERYTHING that FEMME CREATORS have been targeted with in violent digital tirades of mental/psychological abuse. THIS NEEDS TO FUCKING STOP.

The left won't watch because JKR is transphobic, the right won't watch because they made Snape black. This is a show made for approximately nobody.

The two truths: 1) There is nothing wrong with porn, let people safely make it, let people safely enjoy it. 2) If you let people define porn as bad, authoritarians will ALWAYS expand the definition until their hands are around your neck.

Timeline cleanser: Ashley Biden shared a warm Biden family Easter photo from California—simple reminder of what normal looks like.

Seeing somebody go “I wish there was a show that did (X)” but they’ll kill you if you tell them there is because said show is either Helluva Boss or Hazbin Hotel

Every time I listen Hear my Hope I get so emotional over characters who disagree so vehemently with each other coming together to save their lives 😭 I cannot believe some people can be so apathetic to hate the song and the scene

Thinking about that post saying "characters are too self aware now!" And im just thinking i actually like that bc even tho irl everyone is shit at communicating and dont understand why they do shit its fun that in a fictional world we can put words to something that normally people cant comprehend

The rise of grifter culture in indie animation could have been avoided if the abuse hurled at Viv hadn’t been excused and normalized btw

A lot of you treat queer female creators like dirt and wonder why fandoms get a bad reputation and artists want nothing to do with fans. You did it to Lauren Faust, then Rebecca Sugar, Vivziepop and now you’re all targeting both Gooseworx and Izzzyzzz.

People literally be like ‘If the Hellaverse isn’t a simplistic morality play, it is literally committing crimes against real life victims, don’t you know? If we have just one second of seeing things from the villains POV, that means the show is pro-abuse and the creators wants to hurt people irl!’

If Hellaverse had sinners as being forever tortured in absolute hellfire and torment then there’d literally be no plot to exist for Hazbin. Like holy shit. Everyone would be flocking to the hotel to get relief of eternal torment, it would defeat the purpose of people choosing to work on themselves.

Loona is a very genuinely intelligent character and nobody seems to ever talk about this aspect of her. #helluvaboss

Helluva Boss is yaoi. Like pretty blatantly, it ain’t hidden and nobody’s gonna deny it …SO THE IDEA OF THERE BEING HOMOPHOBIC PEOPLE IN THIS FANDOM IS VERY AMUSING TO ME.

"More and more young people are trans now, queers are corrupting our youth" By corrupt they mean making kids feel like they arent alone and protect them from being killed by their own families

Caught some of a Noah Wyle interview earlier where he was talking about how some fans have a show they’re making in their head and they don’t like it when the actual show deviates from that and DAMN. That’s it

You can really tell what people have never sat down and watched a Brandon Rogers video, based on the type of complaints people make against Blitz. "But Brandon would never-" He would. He has. And the shit Brandon Rogers does and say, is a million times more offensive than whatever shit Blitz says.

Mood of the day #angeldust #scribbles

this cartoon is six years old

Did you know? Stories aren’t products. They’re not meant to be consumed, dissected, and rated like items on a shelf. They’re meant to be shared, to inspire emotion, and to inspire creativity.

The same morons who think that Valentino fans “glorify abuse” (they don’t I haven’t seen anyone who is a Valentino fan do that) are the same morons who for some reason think Stella had the right to beat on Stolas and say “she was forced into the marriage too.”😒

You cannot say your an ally of queer people but think they should never in a million present any kind of sexual urges, interests, comments etc etc. It's not "reiterating stereotypes", you're just a pussy who can't handle sexual content and use faux-progressivism to hide that fact.

Writers setting up knee-jerk expectations to be subverted later is not a retcon or mischaracterization. People really thought Stolas was evil just because he was a demon prince, assuming that his politeness was a fake veneer to let potential victims’ guard down instead of his actual personality.

People will say that the Hellaverse lacks depth and maturity to appeal to anyone older than like 20, then flip out when it depicts morally ambiguous sex work as anything other than cartoonishly evil.

Mf’s screaming retcon or character assassination when the character that has barely any development or personality gets taken in a direction they don't like.

How mf’s expect you to react when they tell you that the show you like has ‘bad writing‘

Case in point, people still writing off Stoliz as using the "childhood friends to lovers" trope when the same episode turns it on its head by revealing the shady circumstances of their meeting (bc of their fathers) and that the event seemingly wasn't as impactful for Blitz as it was for Stolas.

I like how critics will look at someone who has a helluva boss profile and say it's from Hazbin hotel. Just more proof to the pile that the critics don't actually watch the two shows they supposedly hate, but just join in on the hate as a fun little hobby to partake in.