Thank you for slogging through the process of making this, so many points I could never articulate myself. And yes I giggled at the Willy Wonka part. bsky.app/profile/agra...

Me when she went off on the tangent about how Mary Jane looked in the Spider-Man games.

.... ohhhh the rage. The white hot searing rage i have for this wanna be book burner and get ilk. I get you where traumatized by growing up in purity culture but not everyone wants to excise sex from all media Layne. What a slimy bigot to.

Dante Alighieri did not spend 6-7 years writing his famous bible fanfiction Dante's inferno for this. For someone to claim fanfiction ruined literature shows a complete lack of understanding of writing and how human build upon the ideas of others.

Can anyone explain why that minotaur book has become the face of modern literature among right wing weirdos who don't read?

I wish folks had the maturity to tell people they looked beautiful without sounding like they are hitting on said person. Or without actually hitting on them.

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It's surreal learning that someone who has sworn revenge against you for doing almost nothing to them stirs, and none of it has anything to do with you. So anyway, BronyFandont posted again.

So people with big butts are cool? This is hardly news, NYP.

"Activism" in this case includes loud support for France's far right National Rally and disparaging LGBTQ+, Muslims and immigrants.

I haven’t watched the video yet but the whole landscape of TV and Film since day 1 is fanfiction. How does she think visual media gets made?!

I think this is an important study

I've actually tried watching her videos before, and even then, she felt way too griftery for my liking, if not adjacent. Obviously, I can't say for certain, but far right rhetoric has found its way into writing advice before. "Mary Sue," anyone?

Hilary Layne is one of the most uninteresting, disingenuous, manufactured human beings I've ever seen in my life. She's crafted a persona that begs you to think she's an intellectual, but in reality, she's just another privileged conservative grifter who doesn't actually research any given subject.

I'm an hour and 6 minutes in, and there's a part where Hilary separates writers inspired by things like Star Wars from those inspired by works like The Odyssey. This is really funny considering there's a prominent filmmaker who has stated he's been influenced by both Star Wars and The Odyssey. 😭

I haven't had a chance to watch this yet, so for now I will just say this: Fan fiction made me love writing, to the point I still write it in my 40s. A lot of really important things in my life happened because of it. As such, I'm kinda over people turning their noses up at it to say the least.

Here are some tags that could describe the arguments in Layne's video: Masochism Denial High Protocol Chasitity

It's interesting (sensory torture) to see someone so split between radfem literary analysis and conservative cancel culture apologia, telling you in 1 breath that smut and fanfiction are objectifying rot to literature and in another that readers impose their tyrannical dislike of racism upon authors

Was kind of expecting the illustration in the thumbnail to be an exaggeration of some kind but nope, she really does intentionally style herself to look like the Final Boss of Karens

Fanfiction is a human endeavour. It is one of the ORIGINAL human arts, whether through mythology, bardic tales, poetic retellings, etc. Everything from the Uttara Kanda of the Ramayana through to the Three Musketeers are fanfics. Most lit is.

I just finished watching this. What the actual fuck is this woman's problem?

I think my first encounter with Second Story was her "Women's Lit is dead because the enterally different genre of romance exists and I can't tell the difference" video. Clearly she just hates romance in general and non-hetero romance in particular.

I miss when shows did weird shit like this.

“She is not a critic, she is not a writer, she’s barely even a YouTuber” Nah I’d just kms at this point lol

You ever miss Riverdale?

Slowly working through this. I watched Second Story a while back (I forget which video) and thought initially that she made fair points. But reflection showed pretty quickly what she’s really up to.

There are so many references what Hilary Layne reminds me of. But arguably the strangest pull I could make is she reminds me of the movie critic in Shyamalan’s Lady in the Water in the way she speaks. youtu.be/I6G3nEU0sX8?...

Has this woman watched any Sci-Fi TV lately? A lot of the Showrunners of Sci-Fi TV Shows nowadays were more than likely fanfic writers. Prime example: DOCTOR WHO. Russell T. Davies, Steven Moffat, Chris Chibnall, Toby Whithouse, Mark Gatiss, Peter Capaldi, David Tennant... Need I say more?

This screams 'if I can't write, nobody can'.

I did not mention this one in my video, but it's also a great deep dive into The Second Story's malarkey.

got fascinated with a peddler of right wing propaganda

Found a bookstore that stocks your novels

IME ppl with this kind of take are usually big mad that fanfic can outdo everything they ever made.

Oh, how I love the aroma of roasted insufferable prigs.

I keep saying out loud, "What the fuck is she talking about?" as I get through this behemoth. Good God. Layne's narrow view of art is genuinely, bafflingly stupid.

The part where she basically reveals herself to be the female version of Davis Aurini right down to the skull as a prop is kind of amazing. She wants to be seen as an intellectual but its hard to be seen as one when all your doing is shitting on universities and people trying to create actual art.

Only about 50 minutes in but this video has been jumpscare after jumpscare of "youtuber I follow showing up in video from other youtuber I follow" (Disclaimer: not the second story, I don't follow that one)

To anyone who's curious: Her first video was a "Here's Why Oppenheimer Is Badly Written" one. Because of course it was.

The title of Second Story’s video alone made me want to avoid it, because I just know she’s just listing all the stupid reasons people hate fanfiction.

Dante's Inferno is fanfiction and no literature or history class gave him flack

Admittedly I'm only like 2 hours into this, but I wanna say that The Second Story is obviously wrong and ignorant about literature and fanfiction. She mentions about talking for this nebulous 'writer' in her video. I'm a writer, an actual one, and I'm using my real voice to say; write more fanfics!

I'm joining the war on fanfiction, on the side of fanfiction. Fanfic is where I cut my teeth for decades, and if y'all ever see my book finally published it will be because of the experience I gained in my craft due to fanfic, as well as my friends who I made writing fic.

Share a smile.

I think I am starting to realize how working on that Second Story vid negatively impacted my mental state the last month. Now that it's done, I feel like a weight is lifted. I don't feel this negativity or exhaustion, even though I shoveled snow for two hours. I feel alright. I am not used to this

Are we forgetting that one of the most popular Broadway musicals is based on a book that's more or less fan fiction of a public domain book series?

Saving the video for when I have the brain for it, but I wrote fanfic for years before I started my original fiction. And while there are certain stylistic tendencies in fanfic I'm not fond of, doubt that's what's getting taken to task here. I assume someone spoke in astounding ignorance?

Her almost stumbling onto how homophobic BL/Yaoi and western M/M romance can be only to use it to be misogynist and homophobic herself is infuriating.

I haven't seen a rabbit hole about one person get dug this deep this fast since.....well, actually, I can't recall a time when I got to learn too much about one person in a mere few hours. Must be a new record for my experiences.

I'll probably watch this later 'cuz it's relevant to my interests, but also. Fanfiction isn't ruining writing. You have to go higher. No, not the tradpubbed authors. Higher. Yeah, higher. Did you find the people who make decisions on what gets published yet? What do they want? Money? There you go.