people should really consider that Senators are just people with jobs, they got those jobs a while ago and they mostly go to work and decide what to do based on making their best judgment

5) Dems showed (a) it's possible to get something out of "shutting down the government" despite what the pundits said, and (b) that they could hold together for 40 days. It's not a policy win, but it changes expectations for what they can do in the future, strengthening their negotiating position.

This is good news, but our fight continues. Extremist Republicans are attacking LGBTQ+ rights across the country. We will keep fighting until we achieve full equality for all LGBTQ+ people.

New: The Supreme Court DENIES Kim Davis' request to overturn Obergefell, the marriage equality decision. No noted dissents. www.supremecourt.gov/orders/court...

we fight for freedom

Mike Johnson’s shutdown -> Blue Tsunami

I need those ACA subsidies. My neighbors need food. I’m not going to fault the only party that wants us to have both for only being able to secure the food. Be mad at Republicans. Be mad at your maga family. Use the rest of your energy to give Democrats a majority.

Charlie Brown, Hoes, &ct, &ct.

“Against the return of the old happy days the iron hand of inexorable destiny had barred every gate.”

Yeah, with respect, @jamellebouie.net and a lot of the other Fight Faction ppl on this site are wrong. The Fight was the point, and the Fight got Republicans to openly do a fuckton of absolutely horrendous shit out in the open, and basically break their House majority as a functioning organ.

You don’t have to lie to blame everything on Republicans because it actually is their fault! Democrats didn’t cut the subsidies, Democrats weren’t the ones pushing this to brink. And separately, I wish our side had more willingness to lie even when our heart isn’t in it

Wish people with any kind of audience would please focus on this shitshow still actually being Republican’s fault entirely

Social media understand that the Democratic Party is not setup the same way as Labour institutionally challenge (impossible)

“In this country it is good to force senators into shameful retainment from time to time, to encourage the others”

Well: the most successful shutdown ever by an Opposition Party, without failure. Still think we could have gotten more political benefit from it, but it ain't nothing.

I’m so sorry

Also guess what! If Trump really does as you think and illegally ignores all the RIF language and lets Vought keep going hog-wild, that is on the GOP and the GOP alone! Let them own it and let them pay for it in the coming elections.

“I resolved… at least to prevent evil when I saw the impossibility of doing good”

The Epstein stuff blows up in Republicans' faces, SNAP, & RIF pain points are neutered, & we get to have this fight again after Christmas but on even stronger footing. This is not a GOOD deal but it's not terrible either.

the wh or the house r's scuttling this deal would be high fucking comedy and we should not discount that possibility

The RIFs language is actually great. Not only does it rehire the people RIFed during the shutdown, it makes it an unequivocal Antideficiency Act violation to do ANY MORE RIFs through the duration of the CR (Jan 30) Completely stops Trump/Vought Phase 2 for now Would love to see this standardized

Let the “don’t fight” caucus burn themselves out on this. And let them do it alone. Someone was going to have to do it. Might as well be them.

also this only reopens the government by having Johnson bring back the House, which should release the Epstein Files

Ahem: runforsomething.net/run/

i think this is a slight misreading of the situation. a number of senate dems are basically saying they weren't willing to let the republicans starve people over the holidays. i am not sure what that says long term, but i don't think its this.

The massive amount of political harm it did to Republicans. This was never going to end in major policy wins.

I don't see the "sellout" here. Every day without paychecks for millions of federal workers is a problem. There's only so long you can drag this out. If the Senate GOP caucus is absolutely dead set on breaking ACA subsidies, well, unfortunately, the American people gave them an electoral majority.

If that's the deal, and the minibus stops RIFs, and we can just do this all over again in February if they renege... I think that's a viable outcome. The bottom line is that if the GOP wants to break the ACA, they're going to be able to do it, and we should chain it to their necks in the midterms.

“Antifascist antiwar anti-imperialist” malding and seething about Putin and his boys meeting with the consequences of their choices, many such cases

Democrats “won” the shutdown a while ago on the politics pretty decisively; it was obvious from the start there was no win to be had on the policy, so the stakes come down to “can you get an even bigger politics win” vs the costs of the shutdown. I think the Dem defectors are getting it wrong

Great message. One thing, you dropped this: ”

AFGE was full throated for it both in March and in late Sept, and they'd basically reversed course by the end of Oct, because missing three paychecks and counting does in fact kinda suck

maybe, or maybe they don't have the stomach for a shutdown long enough to hit SNAP etc. they did just sustain the longest shutdown ever

This is apparently a 7 week or so CR. I'll remind everyone that the first-ever extended shutdown, the Newt one, was a two-parter; a short-ish fall shutdown, followed by a CR, followed by a longer winter shutdown. Will this be a two-parter? We don't know yet. *They* may not know yet.

“The old edifice therefore did not collapse out of inner feebleness, but out of a lack of caution in the use of power which had the duty to preserve it.”

The stove touching was built in the moment he was elected. We don’t need to be vindictive or Doomers. Trump did what we knew he would and we are seeing the consequences we knew we would all have to bear One of those is the right’s coalition falling apart. You see it in Heritage Foundation war

"Unmoved by the errors of our time—­ errors which will always lead society to the abyss— we have had the satisfaction, in a time full of dangers, to serve the cause of peace and the welfare of nations, which never will be advanced by po­liti­cal revolutions"

It’s possible! I don’t want a cave, but the government *does* need to reopen. I think some people have kind of internalized a type of resistance where it doesn’t, and that’s just not true or good.

Funniest result is they pass the House CR and then go back into government shutdown before Thanksgiving

"I knew the many and dangerous rocks in my new position, and I resolved for the present, to keep my ambition within very modest bounds, and at least to prevent evil when I saw the impossibility of doing good."

Dems do not need to be the Stove. Trump is the fucking Stove. Him, and the lunatics and crooks he's surrounded himself with. And trust me, they are going to keep pressing everyone's face onto it until they are removed from power.