Sounds like his flight just landed in DC. Votes probably open for another 45m or so.

Everyone is saying it. Literally everyone

Apparently his flight just landed

WHAT DO YOU MEAN HE WASN'T IN DC

"Life isn't sitcoms" yeah it is

So Scott, Lee, RonJon and Cornyn still not on board, do I have that right?

I'm hearing reports that Glonzo has trapped John Cornyn in a power station

Gotta hand it to John Cornyn on getting Raptured at exactly the right time.

"Dems cannot successfully cave because John Cornyn got trapped in a broom closet" would be easily the funniest way for tonight to end

it’s not gonna happen, but a senate vote failing because the majority whip couldn’t be found is one of the funniest possible ways for a vote to fail

To the tune of Carmen Sandiego: Where, in the world, is - S e n a t o r J o h n C o r n yn

i'm going to be cursed to see this link spammed for the rest of time, but just so everyone knows what the deal is: these guys at LISEP literally only exist to make up numbers to say the economy is bad, that's their entire full-time job www.cbsnews.com/news/cost-of...

literally all they do is take existing economic stats, say "actually we think it should be higher" and then publish a report saying all of America is secretly poor

Remember, everyone, while the specifics are impossible to pin down, you can basically count on the current Republican Party to gloriously fuck up every political opportunity they are given.

there is a chance he's literally not in town

if they convene they have to allow Grijalva to sign onto the discharge petition. they can pull further shenanigans but it will be completely clear that it’s to block the files becuase there will no longer be any excuses

Speaking of the war that still needs winning...if the Senate Dems do end up agreeing with this deal, would the House have to reconvene to vote on it as well? If so, does that mean Grijalva will have to be seated?

All my Cornyn gone

"Keep denying appropriations until either the Republican Party decides they like the ACA finally, or until the 120th Congress is sworn" doesn't meet that criteria

any bsky poaster have a theory of victory aligned with keeping the govt shutdown indefinitely I'm all ears, because again I think I've got a history that's pretty indicative I'm more than supportive of COAs that fuck me over personally if there's a viable path to an achievable end state

Remember, as bad as Dems can be at politics, Republicans make them look like Richelieu.

w h a t h a t

And maybe an indicator of how the house, with a narrow margin, is gonna handle the RIF provisions? Dunno, I haven’t see what source people are using to say Trump supports it, and that would count for a lot there.

for not being sufficiently devoted to the cause! absolute insanity, but it sure as hell disciplined the Republican House conference

most political parties both globally today and throughout history would not allow people to starve explicitly as a political stunt. Trump *sued to be allowed to do it*

I'm more than open to alternate theories of victory that entail yelling at the centrists to knock it off for (period of time), I've sketched out some of those myself But "deny appropriations for another year and change" is just ridiculous, not to mention likely bad politics at some point

yes correct elections have consequences, and the theory of victory is figuring out how to convince the idiot median voter of these facts, not just making a couple million people who work for you go without a paycheck for over a year because it makes you feel good

I still have no idea what’s going on lol

Quite unlikely but I'm not willing to say "almost certainly not" when all of the holdouts are brain-poisoned nutjobs.

Complete wishcasting and almost certainly not the case but it would be kind of hilarious if Dems got a bare 8 to walk the plank on a bill with the RIF poison pill that Thune was too dumb to realize he couldn’t whip all of his guys on.

That is what the primaries are there for.

i suspect there’s some truth to this and also why we should be EXTREMELY skeptical that senate dems as currently constituted would ditch the filibuster should they ever have a trifecta again

do the water fountains in the Senate building just run straight lead

thinking back to when eric cantor got knocked out in a primary in 2014

they were willing to keep the government shut down forever, starve people on SNAP, crash all air travel, to make people pay more, focus, they want to make people pay more, Republicans, focus, tell people that.

To be clear, the people caving suck and should be primaried. Schumer sucks because he is a weak leader more interested in Senatorial privileges and prerogatives than on trying the (admittedly limited) tools of party discipline at its disposal.

That doesn’t mean this is the result of a conspiracy.

Miss you so badly bby..

Ellie hits the nail on the head….again. The need for instant and continuous gratification in politics is what got us here in the first fucking place. Am I disappointed? Fuck yeah. Will there be another opportunity to stick a shiv up their ignorant, republican asses. Fuck yeah.

i think this is a very clear limitation of schumer's convivial caucus management style, only using honey is good when you need to get someone to vote for something, but it is not nearly as as effective as getting someone to not doing somethig

Actually one of the most underrated essays Clausewitz wrote, especially about alliance management and strategic thought

This entire ordeal:

The dark truth is that the institutional political parties have very little power after years of reforms, campaign finance chicanery etc. It isn’t ’the Democrats’ who are caving since there is no one thing. It is particular politicians.

Everyone compares Fetterman to Manchin. The better comparison is Sinema. Manchin, as much as he annoyed Democrats, focused entirely on West Virginia-related issues.

Whatever else is in the deal, agreeing to merely have a vote on ACA is a fig leaf. Even if it passes the Senate, it won't in the House, which also makes it an easy yes vote for the Senate Rs who might want to, defusing it as an attack on them. It is a stupid ask even on Team Schumer's own terms.

I have never in my life seen the DNC and congressional Dem leadership this at odds, it's remarkable

SNAP was funded RIGHT NOW. The Admin is simply lawless, which is why it wasn't paid. Saying that SNAP is part of the deal means the deal was that the admin agreed to follow what is already the law.

i mean. good. that means challenges.