for y'all on mobile, here's the same button! 🫶🏻 suggested points to mention: • the guideline wording is too vague, allowing for liberal interpretation by moderators • we already have personal moderation tools. a better use of resources would be making these tools better

Also if you srsly believe fiction is the same as reality... my art isn't for you and neither is anyone else's. You literally are not mature enough to handle this concept and should not be on the internet. Go away. Take your fake morality posturing elsewhere.

It really is asinine to lump illustrations in with the rest of the things listed on the ToS. Art is fiction and intellectual property cannot issue legal consent. No one trusts the auto labeler to figure out which faces or bodies "look more consenting" based on appearance alone. Thats messed up.

Bsky has "labels" as part of their moderation system here. This is a great tool (even if it could be improved) The point however is that every time someone clicks on "show" (on an individual post or in their global settings) THEY consent to viewing the mature content. THATS how consent works w/Art

Drawings of fictional characters arent exploiting any RL human beings in their creation. Art isnt automatic endorsement. Publishing a drawing featuring mature content, so long its flagged as mature, isnt violating anyone's rights. Consent is handled by moderation settings, not arbitrary censorship.

idk we live in a society (lol) that is really fucked up (lol) about sex and sexuality and everyone has their own personal, often inscrutable boundaries. what if we gave people more tools to enforce their boundaries on a personal level. thats more useful to me, when im trying not to see Stuff I Hate

you would think nudity is a pretty solid Y/N question but lmao is Erika naked? Sailor Moon was about this "naked" for transformation sequences on American TV in the 90s. but there were and are people who interpret that silhouette as Nudity and read sexual intent into it so ???????????

i just don't think this helps. i really don't. speaking as an artist and (if i may be vulnerable for a sec here) (also i don't need pity or comfort about this ty!!) a survivor of sexual violence, censorship is a much bigger threat to me than some gross fan art

who decides what looks consensual enough? what signifiers are going to keep artists absolutely in the clear? how, exactly, will the age of a fictional character be interpreted if there's no age on a wiki anywhere? will we be implying that adults with small bodies are Actually Children? 🫠

i'm against the new TOS because no matter how uncomfortable you are with certain subjects, it's very easy to see how bad-faith interpretations of art could be weaponized, especially against marginalized artists, who are more likely to be targeted for harassment #bskycensorship

Gonna go even further: don't refer to it as "consuming media" when doing this. You aren't a consumer - it's not a product. You read books. You look at art. You watch movies and/or videos. Be careful about word choice. Reject "consume" and REJECT "CONTENT." IT IS ART. YOU ARE ENGAGING WITH ART.

Have YOU sent in a support ticket about the new moderation policies yet today? 🗣️ Several points to make: 1. Art shouldn't be censored 2. It's difficult to *show* consent in a drawing 3. Banning means it will still be posted, but unlabeled 4. Bsky automod is VERY unreliable + will ban incorrectly

what fucks me up about the Bluesky TOS update is fucking every adult creator i know wants MORE labels and filter options. we WANT more granular control over the labels and spoilers we can put on our work so people who want to curate their timeline to avoid us CAN DO SO

I feel like a whole bunch of people would've clutched pearls so hard they'd have strangled themselves if they had to experience the 90s/00s Internet you are responsible for cultivating and curating your own experience here on the interwebs It isn't anyone elses job to soften or censor themselves

If you want to jump in and help us all keep our freedom of expression please give the bsky team a piece of your mind!

fictional characters aren't real and are incapable of consenting. Survivors of sexual assault are silenced from being able to share their stories and process their trauma through art. We're simply asking for more robust tools to let us label our art appropriately so we can express ourselves safely.

It really is asinine to lump illustrations in with the rest of the things listed on the ToS. Art is fiction and intellectual property cannot issue legal consent. No one trusts the auto labeler to figure out which faces or bodies "look more consenting" based on appearance alone. Thats messed up.

So am I allowed to reference the critically acclaimed film classic Alien(1979) on Bluesky or have the goon police decided a franchise built on a metaphor for violent rape and forced impregnation by a creature with a dick for a head is suddenly too much for their modern sensibilities? #bskycensorship

actions that will contribute more to pushing against bluesky's censorship than a blackout: -submitting a feedback request -@ing moderation about it -commenting on mods posts about it -making and sharing memes (ex: "i consent!" sticker) -leaving an app store review -just generally posting about it

They cite "illustrated." How does one determine consent or non-consent from a single illustration? Fictional characters cannot issue legal consent. Conflating fiction w/reality is a problem here. Determining perception of "consent" in content based on LOOKS is also a huge problem!

I realised the other day that not everybody knows this. Scroll down through any game listing in the Steam store, and if they've disclosed the use of AI within their game, it'll be above the System Requirements section. Now you can avoid supporting the use of AI in game development!

Christian persecution in America is best defined by this image: No actual struggle, wearing clothes that cost more than my entire wardrobe, polished cross instead of rugged, and surrounded by crowds of fellow hypocrites cheering on bigotry who believe they're the victims.

If you were a webcomic artist trying to make the next Berserk, Watchmen, Sin City, Skydoll, Blacksad - basically any acclaimed adult comic you can think of - there are dwindlingly few places you can independently publish that online

www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtUu... This just keeps being relevant.

Whenever sites come up with new rules like this I thing about how if you were a creator who was making something every bit on the level with a hugely popular and acclaimed series, would you be allowed to share it? Like, if you were sitting on the next Game of Thrones, you couldn’t share that here.

Restricting the expression of sexuality through fiction and art made by adults, for adults – including those you find personally disturbing or offputting – is conservative censorship, full stop. When that censorship disproportionately affects subgroups, that's also discrimination. For shame.

Yall. Seriously. Send them a message about what you think. Ive done it w others and they DO roll back changes people hate. It just takes a few minutes and you dont need to sound pretty! "This change benefits no one, and will harm bsky's reputation" is typically what i go with. Copy paste if u want!

HOW TO LET BSKY KNOW THEIR POLICY CHANGES HARM ARTISTS: A GUIDE FOR MOBILE USERS! 🧵 Sending feedback is SUPER easy, and takes just a few clicks! 1. Open the left tab menu, and click that "feedback" button 2. Put your concern in the box. I'll copy paste a script to use! (CONT.)

Fantasy is a space you control. You can't be hurt there. It's just like a horror movie - You get a high from the scary story, but you know it's not real. Some people don't like horror and that's fine. If you don't like it, don't interact with it! Don't criminalise others for their kinks.

I'm so tired of this puritanical bullshit. Sex is healthy, sex fantasies are healthy, fiction is healthy. I wish people would stop conflating BDSM and fiction with assault. People have fantasies about power. That's normal! Exploring feeling via stories is what humans do!

Hey guys, you still need to label your art. Not labeling your art is going to have the opposite effect.

To me, the issue is that you cannot apply the concept of consent to fiction because consent requires consciousness. Fiction is not conscious. The characters do not actually exist. So how is there any determination of consent? Bsky has not defined this in the ToS update. #bskycensorship

Drawings of fictional characters arent exploiting any RL human beings in their creation. Art isnt automatic endorsement. Publishing a drawing featuring mature content, so long its flagged as mature, isnt violating anyone's rights. Consent is handled by moderation settings, not arbitrary censorship.

I am tired. I am exhausted by childish immature behavior from folks who are supposed to be adults. Illustrations =/= reality. Fictional characters are intellectual property, not real people. Only real people can issue legal consent. Build better tools for moderation rather than censoring art.

how is noncon determined in a single illustration? how is consent determined in a single illustration? fictional characters are intellectual PROPERTY. property CANNOT issue legal consent or sign waivers. conflating fiction w/reality is the root of the problem here.

people can issue consent. things cannot. drawings & sculptures & fictional characters are things. they are property. they are NOT real people. requiring fictional characters to issue consent is an insult to real people w/real problems how does bsky expect to get consent from something like marble?

Bsky has "labels" as part of their moderation system here. This is a great tool (even if it could be improved) The point however is that every time someone clicks on "show" (on an individual post or in their global settings) THEY consent to viewing the mature content. THATS how consent works w/Art

One reason why I came to bsky from Instagram was that I was tired of only posting sfw drawings and if I didn't, I'd get shadowbanned or worse... Here we have a nice thing called "labels", so every time I click on "show" I consent to viewing nsfw. Why additional censorship? #BskyCensorship

i want to stress: i firmly believe that we, just us normal people, can push back against this global wave of censorship. we CAN do this. there may be temporary setbacks, lost battles, but i do firmly believe that with sustained action, we can make our futures better for art and human expression.

there's honestly a lot of stuff i prefer not to see without warning, which is why i think improving the labeling system is really the way

tagging/labeling requires trust. If using proper tagging and labeling ends up inviting harassment and bans, then yeah, no amount of finger wagging is going to convince people to do it

Here is a link to Bluesky's request form in case you want to ask them to reconsider their ToS.

Honestly thinking a system that'll happily flag 'too round' breasts as suggestive would somehow handle censorship of any kind well is naive. Some identities and bodies are unfairly seen as inherently more explicit than others and you know they are always the ppl impacted in collateral damage

I am tired. I am exhausted by childish immature behavior from folks who are supposed to be adults. Illustrations =/= reality. Fictional characters are intellectual property, not real people. Only real people can issue legal consent. Build better tools for moderation rather than censoring art.

Do not let these changes happen. Be LOUD about it. Don't blackout. WRITE. TAG. COMPLAIN. Once the enshitification starts, it's so difficult to reverse it. We don't want a site for babies (literal and figurative). We're all big kids who can understand art isn't real, and Nazis don't deserve safety.

Seriously if we trust an algorithm that tags posts based on keywords without context, we'll end up wasting time explaining jokes to Ai moderators. This is just a series of domino's that fall when Nazis get their fee fees hurt. WE SHOULD NOT CODDLE FACISTS. Discourse happens, block and move on.

Feeling uncomfortable about something is not a morally superior stance. Disgust is not an inherently correct reaction to something, nor does it prove something's sinfulness. You can't consume your way into moral purity.

Nazis LOVE to take advantage of sites promising crack downs on posts that "incite violence" we all saw what was posted during the Trump death scare and the Kirk shooting. It starts with cries of inciting violence it ends with me getting perma-banned from Twitter because I said a nazi had a tiny dick

Artists don't have time to deal with this. If you want to see fanart of anime high schoolers kissing you have to make it clear to Bluesky that these new terms are just asinine hurdles for real creators to clear while kids go to TikTok and watch Ai kittens get beaten to death. Its not constructive.