Keep thinking about how Conte and Jose, these supposed guaranteed winners rocked up and just complained about everything. The club isn't built for success etc. Ange turns up, backs himself, tells the club what winning a trophy will do then goes and wins one. Thats a winner.

Couldn't give a flying fuck about CL qualification. Its a European Final to win a trophy.

Not having this narrative that Frankfurt aren't up to much. Third in Bundesliga, winning experience and nous, unbeaten at home in the Yurop this season. They didn't play well because they weren't allowed to. Spurs individually, collectively, tactically on it. Right subs right time. Deserved.

I've a feeling Spurs are in for a sobering managerial search this summer.

Very sensible handling of Mikey Moore. This is the sort of insight that is lacking that usually allows for terrible takes to fill the gaps

This season has been a mess but Lucas Bergvall is turning into a fabulous midfielder. Always so positive and fearless on the ball. As he matures, if those lapses in concentration/decision making fall away he's going to be an elite player.

Thomas Frank would be my choice for next Spurs manager. Its time ownership stopped bringing in managers who either require elite players or specific system players as they wont give the manager what they need. Frank is smart, pragmatic and at the level Spurs actually are

Thoughts and prayers with anyone having to sit through the Minecraft movie with their kids. My punishment starts in 2 hours

All of that isn't to excuse Ange, he has faults with both his system and reactions at times but don't hire a system specific coach and not back him and at what point does a human reaction to things become expected?! Its so bad from so many angles.

This is Levy's masterpiece. Bring in a manager who galvanised the fanbase, plays the football we want to see. Then don't fully back him, leaving squad with clear gaps. Those are exposed in a horrendous run of injuries. Take ages to bring in players in Jan. Season now drifts away. Still in Europe

Let's just stop all this nonsense. No one is watching this Baller League shit. Surely

Nice spot for a morning coffee

If I have a take on Tottenham and what kind of coach they need, I think it's secondary to the reality that the ownership style will always expose whatever flaws exist in a candidate. There are good ideas and nice theories, but whomever is in the job will only have part of what they need to do it.

I absolutely loved Pochettino's Spurs but the fact he went to Chelsea showed he wasn't the messiah we thought he was and the reasons he didn't win trophies at Spurs are all still going to be a factor. Not least ownership.

That Bergvall pen is just so clear I'm amazed VAR didn't overturn that. The whole "he dived earlier" argument is mute when VAR is there to review decisions.

This is not a knock on Gray,Danso,Dragusin as I like them but nothing shows just the gap in class between a Romero and VDV partnership quite as much as when you see the difference in the same game. Spurs were in complete control with Romero and VDV. Getting them both fully fit before 1/4s is crucial

Vicario, Porro, Romero, VDV, Udogie, Gray, Bergvall, Kulusevski, Johnson, Solanke, Tel Subs: Kinsky, Danso, Spence, Bentancur, Sarr, Maddison, Son, Moore, Odobert/Richarlison Until I can see a run of games where this is the options for Ange, I can't yet throw the towel in on him.

The latest episode of Severance is just a ridiculous flex in pretty much every aspect of making a TV show. Unreal

They're going to act like beating City is an incredible thing aren't they? Despite half the league beating them this year

Sincerely hope I'm wrong here but it feels to me a matter of when Ange is sacked over the next couple of weeks. Not if. He's been seriously let down and the lack of movement or urgency in this window is staggering from Levy. Make no mistake, this isn't a scouting issue. It's a money one.

This is one hell of a thread and some really interesting analysis. It's also quite depressing that this level of analysis is absolutely nowhere to be seen in the vast majority of the football discourse, across all mediums.

Very much looking forward to watching the Conference Championship games on est time next weekend, sat in a bar. Rather than a Sunday night at home.

Wow.

For all the talk of "Ange needs to change his style" i actually can't remember the last time we looked like an Ange team. Man City away? Increasingly we are a team trying to just survive these games. Than stamp our authority on it. Largely because we haven't the fitness or depth to do either

Given how quickly we saw players throw managers under the bus in the past. This is telling. It probably won't matter as Levy is gonna Levy. If Ange was working them too hard, forcing them to player injured or out of his depth...he'd have been binned off by the squad long ago.

Spurs will never change until the board does (never happening) or there's an ownership change (Levy has priced anyone who would be interested out). A reckoning for Levy for the mismanagement of the most important part of a football club....the football team.

Ange, like most before him, has been hung out to dry by Levy and co. This squad is demoralised, injured, woefully lacking depth and exhausted. None of those change without the board changing and investing heavily this week. They won't, they'll do what they do and use the manager as their scapegoat

Let's not lose sight of the fact their fans screamed for a penalty when the ball hit Kinsky's hand.

Incredible bravery and resilience from Arsenal during their horrendous injury run. You can see the weakness in that team at......I guess right back? ..... maybe on the right wing? Gosh, it's just so unfair. How can they compete.

Where to start with that. What a performance. To put in a shift like that given the circumstances is seriously impressive. No question this group are fully behind Ange. Kinsky looks an absolute steal, who is not here to be back up. Bergvall and Gray continue to impress and Solanke, what a man.

Defoe always said there are goals in the number 18 shirt

Arsenal stood no chance with their injury crisis. A brave effort

I thought Bergvall was really impressive today. Things are starting to slow down a bit for him, he's looked quite panicked at times on the ball. To play in that CM against their three and play that well is really encouraging.

This team is quite simply knackered and it is impacting their decision making. Form means nothing. If you can run you start even if you're playing terribly. An 18 y o is our most polished defender, and we are now playing a glorified training cone at left back. No new coach fixes this

New platform but your festive reminder that Krampus is just a brilliant, underrated, Christmas movie. Cast is absolutely stacked. Lead by Toni Collette who is acting her ass off (as per). Released in 2015 and soon became *the* 'it's not Christmas until we've seen this' movie.

Ornstein saying Spurs are fully backing Ange. You love to see it.

Over to your commentary team Glen Hod... *mutes tv*

Two more additions of the football gods just toying with Spurs. Caicedo gets away with the clearest red card you could wish to see, the second home game running a red card decision hasn't gone our way when ahead and Enzo Fernandes, who filmed himself singing racial slurs, helps himself to a goal

Man Utd...

Tonight's viewing. If you are in any way squeamish then swerve this. Even as a horror fan there's a few scenes in this that had me wincing but what a ride. Batshit

I'm just a drained Spurs fan once again calling for the club to adopt a siege mentally. We are the perfect club for it and so rarely have ever done it. AVB had a little with the "we is us" presser and Pochettino tapped into it at times but it's needed now...shame our club comms is utterly horrifc

Finally got round to giving Arcane a watch on Netflix. I know nothing of the League of Legends source material but this is a brilliant series. The animation is fantastic and the voice acting is excellent. Well worth a watch

The question we should be asking as fans is...how do we get the game called off tomorrow? Man Utd fans just blocked the Liverpool bus a few years ago. Let's try that.

Spurs are stuck in the middle ground of punching above our weight consistently and not having the ownership model to bridge the gap. Expectations rise and unlike other clubs who are truly our benchmark we are criticised constantly and the pressure is always on. Can't see how that changes under ENIC

I'm not sure what some Spurs fans expect at the moment. Do some think we should be title challengers? I understand performances and results have been frustratingly inconsistent but given the stage of the project, the squad make up and more importantly the injuries...we are where we should be

This side looks dead on their feet. It's so frustrating because we've barely been able to get a run of games with everyone fit. You've got no chance in this league when that happens. We've got to just battle through and pray we get a clean run from Jan onwards. That Utd game next week is massive

The lack of onfield leadership is stark. You watch when the play stops. No one is talking, no one is driving this team. We've a lot of young players developing and our senior players are silent out there.

My Spotify wrapped has been ruined by the kids but my Podcast stats remain ridiculous

I just don't see the rationale behind the "Ange out" minority. It solves none of Spurs' issues. It doesn't make the squad deeper, nor does it solve the injuries. What it does do is reset a massive rebuild that's not even two years down the line. It's so short-sighted.