So Dems lost Matt Yglesias, Chris Cillizza, Jonathan Chait, and—now—Ezra Klein. That’s how bad their decision to cave is.

me when the AI bubble bursts

The problem isn't that they caved for a promised vote; the problem is that the vote will be a meaningless gesture impressing no one but Senate Democrats. It will fail. ACA beneficiaries will suffer considerably as a result and there will be no consequences of any kind for Republicans.

Chuck Schumer currently in mid-air after the football was pulled away.

It's dominance politics. It's not enough to defeat your opponents on policy, you have to humiliate them. Knifing Democrats in the back who just extended a hand to you in compromise and friendship is about humiliating them and showing how foolish and powerless your opponents are.

They caved in March so they could get a better deal now. They’re caving now so they can get a better deal in some indeterminate future. The better deal is always just beyond their reach, but continuing to cave will get them there. And if you don’t agree with that, you don’t understand Politics,

like this is basically it, the melts melted under pressure

Absolutely. The far right took over the GOP through the long process of taking over local and county organizations and the left can do the same. It’s not an instant fix but it actually works.

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Democrats were overwhelmingly united on their shutdown demands. Americans understood that Trump and Republicans were to blame. Voters made it known last Tuesday that they'll elect leaders who stand up to Trump. Democrats held the cards — and folded for no reason.

I've said it before, and I will say it again. We need courageous leaders that put working families at the center of all they do. 8 democrats caving to empty promises is an indefensible leadership failure For the sake of our country, Schumer needs to resign.

I'm a SNAP recipient... for the last month I was tightening my belt, doing my best to eat cheaper and eating less so I'd have a little left over to help get me through when payments were cut. It was all for nothing. Fuck the dems who supported this.

i think an especially depressing part of this whole saga is that "we need to win primaries so establishment dems are replaced by true progressives" is a thing we've done before but one of the progressives we worked hard to install over the establishment pick was fetterman

I heard from my cat that she is willing to consider never throwing up on a rug again. So now we'll see if she's really gonna work with me.

Eight million of us took to the streets. The Election was a clean sweep and you caved?!?

top tier skeet

Important to understand this. There's a reasonable chance that your Dem Senator who voted against it and is acting mad now was in on the play. It's the same reason why they scheduled the surrender for AFTER the election this week. They didn't want people pissed at Dems right before an election.

agreeing to make a terrible deal while your main opponent is quite literally being boo'd on live tv by an entire stadium of people is the kind of political instinct you'd normally only find in a 3 week old dead goldfish

if they were going to cave anyway they should’ve done it a week ago to spare SNAP recipients the agony.

Critizing corporate Dems who play Vichy isn't "creating a circular firing squad". I will ally with just about anyone fighting fascism. This behavior tonight was a capitulation. It aids the fascists. We should be outspoken in our condemnation of this vote.

An agreement to agree to do a later vote is NOT an enforceable contract so what in the actual hell are Americans getting out of this deal??

A lot of people have suffered, but at least it was for nothing.

If the rest don’t oust Schumer immediately, then the entire U.S. Senate sold us out. They think we’re stupid. It’s insulting.

Americans are facing a healthcare crisis NOW and this Senate deal does nothing to fix that. It's a bad deal and I cannot support it. Americans deserve better.

god i cannot convey in words how much I loathe Chuck Schumer

Democrats have to stop bailing out Republicans from facing the consequences of their own policies. And yeah, that means they have to stop sparing voters from experiencing what GOP government truly means. Every time Dems step in, it only emboldens the GOP & they make it even worse the next time.

Chuck Schumer Helps Pull Democrats Back From Brink Of Courage

Senators on the brink of retirement who lived full, wealthy lives and never feared the loss of their own healthcare voting for their constituents to die from their inability to afford the same is treasonous

I do think the fundamental problem is we see the country on the existential brink, and they still appear to believe that there’s still some value in the way they’ve always done things.

I think sometimes we forget they’re only human. And weak. Exceedingly weak.

They lined up all their defectors in safe positions or who had nothing to lose and everyone else had time to workshop their little posts about how they don't agree with this

I don’t care if Schumer voted no. If he’s unable to wrangle the caucus, he’s not an effective leader. I’ll continue to push for the caucus to elect a new one.

Thou mayst be valiant in a better cause; But now thou seem'st a coward.

the thing that upsets me about this the most is that Dems had all the momentum, republicans were reeling, and we were getting intra-GOP fighting over the filibuster, all while voters were blaming republicans for their incompetence this destroys all of this. just a total gut punch

How about we shut down the government for this very popular and specific goal and then, hear me out, we hold out for like a month and a half and then, ok this part is important, after a watershed election where we ran the table, ONLY THEN, fold and don't get the one thing we said we wanted.

putting chuck schumer where he belongs: thread

And we want that resignation effective immediately or before the next CR vote. It’s not just because he deserves it, but to make clear to anyone who would be his successor in the role that we, the base, are not negotiating anymore. If you fail, we will break you and replace you.

Any D running for Senate in 2026 must vow to oust Schumer as leader. Maybe he would quit

The model of holding individual senators responsible is broken here. The retirees clearly agreed to take the fall. Which is why the nos should get no credit for voting no unless they move to oust Schumer

The American People: “Chuck Schumer, we have provided you with all the leverage you need to win this shutdown fight, once and for all.” Chuck Schumer *flushing the leverage down the toilet*: “What?”

I’m just saying that there are a lot of non-violent and non-felony ways to make people so miserable that they will beg for it to stop

primary every democrat, i don’t give a shit, but the cause of your suffering is the republican party and there are a lot of you who need to learn to hate them more — and i do mean hate — than you hate your allies

It really does seem like there's a decent chance that these senators screwed us because they don't want their personal Thanksgiving plans to be disrupted.

Anyway a great way to radicalize people is for them to realize that you just abandoned their chance at being able to access and afford health care because you didn’t like waiting in line at the airport.

if democrats want to retain any amount of integrity they need to immediately vote out chuck schumer as party minority leader